Below is my response to CFIDS Association board member Jennifer Spotila's comments from yesterday. Spotila was responding to my "Bad Company" blog post, particularly to my commentary on CAA President Kim McCleary's statement to CNN about the PACE trial. McCleary told CNN: “I think it would be challenging, at least in the U.S. system, to purchase the services that they've tested in this trial,” adding this: The alphabet soup of acronyms that represent the interventions used in Britain is “just not something that our health care service offers, is reimbursable, or is really available here.” And, finally, this: “It's kind of a shame that we're still limited to talking about approaches to coping mechanisms as the only therapy that's available.”
Spotila's comments are below mine.
Jennifer Spotila,
If McCleary hadn't made those comments to CNN, CNN wouldn’t have included those comments. No one held a gun to McCleary’s head or laid a cattle prod to her feet and forced her to utter those problematic remarks. She did that all on her own. Granted, it’s difficult to articulate a string of perfect quotes, but McCleary’s endorsement of cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and graded exercise therapy (GET) was inexcusable in my view and the view of many patients. After all these years, there is no excuse for defending these ineffective therapies.
Defending McCleary’s statements, you wrote: “Both reporters had also been prepped by the authors of the PACE trial to expect and dispute the objections raised by McCleary and other advocates to the study.” Prepped? Says who? Jennifer, each side makes his or her case. You’re an attorney. Think of it like the defense and the prosecution in a murder trial. That’s how it works. McCleary’s job was to make her points, not to endorse those of the opposing side.
Kim McClearly could have told CNN something like this: “The PACE trial is problematic, and here are some reasons why. The selection process eliminated most bona fide CFS patients. Instead, the PACE patients had idiopathic fatigue and depression. Cognitive behavioral therapy and graded exercise therapy are primarily helpful for those with idiopathic fatigue and depression, not those with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. In fact, the hallmark of CFS is post-exertional crashing, so graded exercise therapy would make the symptoms of most CFS patients worse.
“Many patients with CFS are severely ill and suffer from seizures; swollen lymph nodes; fevers; autonomic dysfunction that makes it difficult or impossible to sit or stand; heart failure; immune dysfunction, including reactivation of herpes viruses; and rare cancers. Some patients are dying, others are consigned to a living death, and compelling evidence points to a newly discovered retroviral infection in these patients that’s similar to the one that causes HIV.
"Despite its trivial name, this is not a trivial disease. To suggest that patients can power through CFS through GET or CBT would be as incorrect as suggesting that those with Parkinson’s disease or multiple sclerosis or AIDS can be restored to health simply with exercise and a positive attitude.”
"Despite its trivial name, this is not a trivial disease. To suggest that patients can power through CFS through GET or CBT would be as incorrect as suggesting that those with Parkinson’s disease or multiple sclerosis or AIDS can be restored to health simply with exercise and a positive attitude.”
Jennifer Spotila, even if I had been on hallucinogens, I couldn’t have said something as unhelpful as what McCleary told CNN.
On another note, you wrote, “The Association did make changes to its website and operations in response to feedback we received through Khaly's postings and other venues.” Khaly Castle posted a reply to you that said in her view there were no significant changes (see her response, below). Jennifer, I would appreciate if you would tell the readers of CFS Central what those changes were, and let the patients weigh in on their significance.
The CAA survey on the patient forum Phoenix Rising gives patients the choice of voting that the CAA is doing great, or needs some minor changes, or needs changes in direction, or needs changes in both direction and leadership. So far, 143 out of 153 patients—that’s 93 percent—have voted for changes in direction and leadership. I would argue that the CAA is doing poorly on the Phoenix Rising survey because it’s not representing what the patients want and need.
Patients deserve better representation. Patients deserve a CAA that strongly opposes the money spent on CBT and GET studies/treatment for ME/CFS. Patients deserve bona fide biomedical research, not this appalling, make-believe, psychoneurotic PACE study. Patients, in my view, deserve an advocacy organization that actually advocates for them.
You wrote: “I strongly encourage you to balance your reporting on the advocate point of view by interviewing a diverse sample of us.” Jennifer, I strongly encourage you to hear what the patients are saying and to stop defending the indefensible: McCleary’s statements to CNN are inexcusable.
Jennifer Spotila's remarks:
Mindy, If you had contacted me, I would have been happy to answer any questions you have about the Association or the incidents you cite here. I did respond to Khaly Castle in 2009. The Association did make changes to its website and operations in response to feedback we received through Khaly's postings and other venues.
Kim McCleary gave a very lengthy interview on PACE to CNN, and another to NPR. Both reporters chose to use only one quote from those interviews. Both reporters had also been prepped by the authors of the PACE trial to expect and dispute the objections raised by McCleary and other advocates to the study. Their questions to McCleary and the pieces they produced reflect this.
I strongly encourage you to balance your reporting on the advocate point of view by interviewing a diverse sample of us. Reasonable minds can and do differ on many aspects of CFS advocacy. I continue to believe that dialogue serves us better than monologue.
Khaly Castle's response to Jennifer Spotila:
Jennifer, to say that the CAA responded would be accurate. To say that the CAA responded in a meaningful way would be inaccurate. In 2009, a thread was started on Phoenix Rising. The discussion over there continues to this day, about basically the same issues.
After we tried to have a meaningful dialogue, CAA was asked to help us fight the DSM5 issues. The response was meager and meaningless, basically boiling down to the suggestion that we should go ask the IACFS/ME as CAA did not feel informed enough to take a stance. I notice the same conversation evolving regarding ICD codes right now.
Mindy already cited and linked to two of my articles voicing some of the concerns we had in 2009. We are still facing the same concerns...lack of adequate response to ill-defined cohorts in X-negative studies, inability to take a stand that CFS is NOT what the CDC likes to describe, inability to advocate for the sickest of us, inability to verbalize a distinction between this illness and the grab bag of fatiguing illnesses....on and on.
For more on some of these issues, see: http://www.cfsuntied.com/archivedblog4.html#caaxmrv
You will notice that not much has changed.
A few months ago, after the "Inside Voices" article was presented to us, I asked the CAA on Facebook if the CAA still considered itself an advocacy organization, or if it had decided to become a science and research organization. You answered, that they were indeed an advocacy organization, but that there were many ways to advocate. The conversation and surrounding events are documented here: http://cfsuntied.com/blog2/2010/10/07/be-vewy-vewy-quiet-im-hunting-wabbits/
This can no longer be about promotion of promotion. It has to be promotion of what will save us. Many of us are facing not only the end of our ropes, but the end of our time. The clock is ticking.